Prosecutor: Former museum director gave herself thousands of dollars in fraudulent payroll draws

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Deborah Sue Knapp listens to her attorney during an appearance in Lewis County Superior Court.

This was updated at 8:59 p.m.

By Sharyn  L. Decker
Lewis County Sirens news reporter

CHEHALIS – If the allegations turn out to be true, the former director of the Lewis County Historical Museum routinely issued herself payroll draws and used the museum debit card to pay personal expenses at places such as a furniture store, a grocery store and even to pay her home’s electric bill – totaling more than $137,000.

Chehalis police and the Lewis County prosecutor both say they expect to find more wrongdoing as two more years of financial records are reviewed.

Deborah Sue Knapp, 52, of Chehalis, was handcuffed and wearing green and white striped jail garb as she appeared in Lewis County Superior Court this afternoon.

Knapp is charged with 10 counts of first-degree theft.

She was arrested yesterday at the end of an investigation into revelations the museum’s endowment fund of more than $460,000 was drained in less than four years. Knapp was hired in July 2006.

“I’m shocked at how much,” museum member Susan Gonzales said after the hearing.

Gonzales said she was not entirely surprised when Knapp’s arrest was announced because everyone knew a police investigation was underway. But she finds it implausible one person could have made off with all that money alone, she said.

“I thought there would be more people (arrested),” Gonzales said. “How could the board not know this was happening?”

The Chehalis woman finds herself in the unique position, she said, of considering Knapp a friend, and also a tenant who has left her rent unpaid in recent months.

Last month, after museum members learned there was no money left in the endowment fund, four officers on the 13-member board were replaced, the accounts were closed and the museum was shut down temporarily. Police were asked to investigate.

The current criminal charges cover the years 2008 through this year. The investigation into 2007 and 2006 is still underway.

Knapp attempted to keep her face turned away from news cameras and spectators in the Chehalis courtroom as attorneys read the charges and discussed bail.

Lewis County Prosecutor Jonathan Meyer called them “egregious facts” and a violation of trust.

“We expect additional charges,” Meyer said.

Meyer asked for bail of $50,000 noting Knapp and her husband have moved in a motor home in Centralia, suggesting she is a flight risk.

Defense attorney Bob Schroeter pointed out his client is someone who has been an integral part of the community and requested an unsecured bond.

Judge Richard Brosey agreed Knapp could be released if her husband co-signed a $25,000 unsecured note.

Knapp’s husband, daughter and other family members were in the courtroom, but declined any comment.

According to charging documents, Knapp was paid a salary of $43,000 a year and did not receive overtime pay or so-called comp time.

Her responsibilities included overseeing the day-to-day operations of the museum in downtown Chehalis and supervising three part time employees and the volunteers.

Prosecutors allege Knapp routinely obtained “draws” from her employer but failed to account for them in subsequent paychecks. They go on to allege she wrote many of her own payroll draw checks without any one else’s knowledge, and many times listed them in the check register as voided although she cashed them.

For example, one of the theft counts alleges that in January and February 2008, she received more than $5,000 in payrolls draws in addition to her regular salary. It continued until Oct. 28, 2011, allegedly, adding up to more than $44,000.

“Knapp was questioned by law enforcement regarding the payroll draws she obtained and initially denied knowing she was overpaid, but later acknowledged she knew she had been overpaid,” prosecutors wrote.

Charging documents go on to describe it appears Knapp was using the museum debit card to pay personal expenses at Aaron’s Furniture, AGIA Insurance, Wal-Mart, Rite Aid, K-Mart, Walgreens, Safeway, Staples and Lewis County PUD.

Prosecutors wrote it appears she used the card to pay her power bill on Fineview Road for the previous two years.

The personal debit card amounts total $92,000 over the last four years, according to prosecutors. The total figure is still under investigation, according to charging documents.

No other individuals associated with the museum are suspected to be involved, according to police.

New museum board president John Panesko said on his talk radio show this morning nobody other than Knapp ever looked at the original records – the bank statements.

This afternoon Panesko said that was his understanding, and he could not explain how the board treasurer could have compiled her reports to the board without those records – even as she was also the paid part-time bookkeeper.

The dual-role is something the new board officers have eliminated, along with implementing several other layers of security relating to money, according to Panesko.

“No one who was involved in finances before is involved in it again,” he said. “Just for safety.”

He expected a decision to terminate Knapp would be made at next week’s board meeting, he said.

The museum has been operating with only volunteers, but Panesko said they expect next month to bring back the part-time curator and bring in a part-time director.

“We don’t now who that is yet,” he said.

The museum is open and its incoming revenue roughly matches its expenses now, according to Panesko.

“We have enough money to operate, now that we’ve plugged the leak,” he said.

Knapp’s opportunity to make her plea comes on Jan. 12.

Her income and assets are such she was assigned a court-appointed attorney, Ken Johnson.

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Read “Police asked to investigate finances of Lewis County Historical Museum” from Wednesday November 16  2011 for background, here

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8 Responses to “Prosecutor: Former museum director gave herself thousands of dollars in fraudulent payroll draws”

  1. Soozyq says:

    So,Judy B. if you consider an 89 motor home a new one, I would hate to see a brand new one ….

  2. Curious says:

    Her assets are such that she has a court-appointed atty, she’s living in a motor home and her rent has not been paid for months — wonder where that $43K salary was going? Poor woman. How on earth could such little oversight have gone on? Perhaps it is the case that only one person made off with the money, but surely there is some liability associated with not reviewing the books. It is difficult indeed to know just what the board’s treasurer/bookkeeper was using to create the reports. Incoming revenue now “roughly” matches expenses — hope that very specific numbers are being shared by many and often!

  3. WendyC says:

    Don’t forget the non-profit veteran group thieves from the Chehalis Legion and Toledo VFW. Those were trusted insiders who pilfered thousands and thousands of dollars from bingo programs designed to raise funds to help military veterans and their family members. Shame on those selfish greedy individuals who have no problem stealing hard earned monies raised for community improvement projects!!

  4. Katie C. says:

    Add 1 more “white collar” crime to that list – the former manager of the Winlock IGA who plead guilty to stealing over $1 MILLION from the store!

  5. Sick and tired says:

    Why is it nobody in this community can LEAD!? The locals that are MORE than capable don’t want to get involved. Anyone that actually knows what they are doing is shunned, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr upon. Too big, too smart, too much influence…………. get a grip folks! The ship is sinking fast! Get some folks in these high places and get rid of the dead weight! Paying 3 people to do one mans job is rediculous!

  6. Judy B says:

    One question who paid for the new motor home they live in!!!!!!!

  7. Sick and tired says:

    Wow? This is the 4th “white collar” money theft to hit the community in the last year and a half. Mororic, the Steck Clinic thief, and then the thief from Rokoz’s Electric, the theft from the Chehalis City Water Co. by Jeff Shine, the cities building inspector. And these 4 thieves were all out and about rubbing elbows at community events! Now THAT is a SAD story for our community!

  8. WOW! I am a little shocked that this had been happening for so long. Sad story for the community.